#305 | February Q&A: Induction at 37 Weeks, "Lazy" Feeders, Low-Lying Placenta, PPD, Respiratory Distress in Newborns, Kick Counts

I'm Cynthia Overgard, owner of HypnoBirthing of Connecticut, childbirth advocate and postpartum support specialist. And I'm Trisha Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board certified lactation consultant. And this is the Down To Birth Podcast. Childbirth is something we're made to do. But how do we have our safest and most satisfying experience in today's medical culture? Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.

Welcome to the February Q, A, we're back. All right. Well, what have we got?

We asked, we asked some fun questions this morning, then we got a lot of fun responses. Which ones are we going to discuss? The one I figured that we should talk about today is someone asked us to ask the community if they lost a friend since having a baby, or have they lost a friend over their parenting choices? And you know, the answer is yes, because in the women in my postpartum group, it's a common thing. So I just thought I would share what some of those responses were.

Well, first of all, has that happened to you?

Oh, let me think about that. No, never happened to me. As as rad as I am radical, I mean by many people's perspectives, I'm sure, no, it's never happened to me. But I think I would almost say I pride myself on having such authentic friendships, that my friends and I have a genuine respect for each other. So it's kind of unfathomable to me and my family is the same way we there's, you know, we're all a lot on the same page, but we have a lot of respect for how we live our lives. So now it hasn't happened to me. However, I do feel for friends who who have babies at different times? You can imagine that, right? I mean, you you had them young, you had kids. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, no. What do you mean? Like, when, let's say best friends, get married and have children? Years for me, Oh, I feel for both of them, because it's isolating to both of them. I think that that so that can happen. I still can't think of a friendship where that happened with me, but I know it. Have you lost a friend over any of your decisions? I can't imagine that too easily with you, either. I don't know why. No, right? No, I have not. I think you know, maybe acquaintances that could have become friends, maybe possibly didn't. But I can't even really think of a scenario like that. There's nothing that sticks out in my memory as like, oh gosh, that was a division. That was a dividing issue between us. And, you know, we could have been friends, and now we can't, and but I also don't talk about those things with people who I don't think already align with me. That's a good point. That's true. That's an easy way of avoiding that.

And Trisha, things were way less divisive when we had our children. We each had our first 20 years ago, almost for me, almost, but yeah. So what do you think are the most common responses we got? Like 50% of them were over one thing, obviously, you know what that is, yeah, the V word, the other V word, V word. I was actually just going to say, the only time I can think of it even becoming an issue, was when we had a measles outbreak in our community, and I live in a small town, and they were going to close, they were going to close the school, or they were going to remove the children from the school for three weeks, the children who were not vaccinated, and so then it was going to become known to everyone in the community who vaccinated and who didn't. It didn't end up happening, but I do remember that being like, oh gosh, who's on whose side? What's going to happen here, and how to navigate that? But yes, I can see that is the most divisive topic between family, friends, acquaintances,

I think it's the internet everything. I might have mentioned this before, but I think it's important to tell everyone that things are so deeply cultural, and when you're a young adult, you don't realize it at all, because you haven't lived long enough as an adult to know how cultural things are, but the most popular show in the 70s was the Brady Bunch. I'm sure everyone still has heard about it, because it's, you know, it's, it's, it's such an iconic TV show, can I understand something about that? Yes, I have never watched a single episode of The Brady Bunch.

Yeah. Well, you never watched like, friends or success. I mean, it's that that's a wonder that doesn't break up our friendship, that you don't know friends. You've never you know. You've never caught one friend's joke or reference I've ever made. You know you have. You didn't watch much Seinfeld. You didn't watch succession. No, if we can withstand that Trisha, because that's not easy for me. Friends and a recently succession, they're just they're must. Friends is a must.

Friends is a must. I'll have to stop all the all the generations after you are into friends so you there's no Oh yeah. My kids have watched it for sure.

Of course they have. Of course they have. Okay, so what was I about to say? Oh, the Brady Bunch, they had an episode. And. And the the scene has gone viral many times, and I think they, horrifyingly have pulled the episode now from any reruns. There's an episode where all of them, all nine of them, by the end, even Alice gets the measles. So each kid comes home one by one by one, and of course, the whole thing, they set them all up in their sleeping bags on the floor, and Alice is kind of the nervous, Nelly freaking out about it. And then there's this famous line where Mrs. Brady says, Alice, it's only the measles. That was what everybody said up until the 90s, when more and more parents stopped vaccinating. And then I would even say the early 2000s then they really changed the narrative. But that was how it was then. And everything changed around the early 2000s and I just wish people understood that, like our parents generation, our grandparents generation, did not grow up afraid of the flu, of the measles. It's just part of being a human being. And you know, so anyway, that's that's That all changed once they made a vaccine for it, then they started making people really terrified over it, and the risk of the disease themselves hasn't changed anyway. So vaccines was by far the most common answer, like half of the Yeah. And if people want more information on that, we they can go into our Patreon and listen to our discussion. Watch our discussion. Yes, watch and listen and take notes. There's lots of good information in there. So, so, okay, all right. So here was what they said. Okay. So the most common responses we received were those, by far, there are there? What else would you guess if it's not vaccines? What would be your next best guess?

Vaginal birth versus C section, unmedicated versus medicated births. Okay, I think there was one like that. So one of them says political views. Okay, that's not surprising these days, very divine. I thought we were only talking about health, but okay, no, it said, over your parenting choices and political views might be, it might be including some other things. One woman said, No, people already knew, and I don't mess around and we don't share all our choices. That sounds like you and me talk smart. It's exactly what we would say, right? People already knew. I don't mess around and we don't share all our choices. Yeah, why would you have to lost friends over COVID? That's not uncommon, but gained new friends and made better connections. My neighbor friend stopped talking to me after she said she required people to be vaccinated before entering her home. Wow. Yeah, all right, sleep training. I don't know what direction that went, but sleep training. My sister in law won't speak to me because I had a home birth after C section. She's an anesthesiologist, so I guess she knows better. Birthing a home was a hard pill for the majority of my family to swallow. That's someone else talking Yes, my best friend of 13 years because she said I was killing my son for not vaccinating him, homeschooling, many said they broke it off with people who didn't discipline their children at all. A lot around discipline, I can see that, because that feels like it's going to influence your children. If they are hanging around undisciplined children, and that's not your style, then that can actually feel like it rubs off, and it actually can rub off on your children and make it harder for you to implement your rules.

Yeah, and a couple of them said the other trial child was hitting their child and the parent wasn't doing anything. But so that's that'll that'll do it, yeah, okay, for breastfeeding for two years. Can you imagine losing a friend because of how long you breastfeed? I didn't lose a friend, but we had limited interaction when I was told I needed to wean myself from my baby.

That's talking about feeding. I don't know. You need to wean yourself from your baby. Like it sounds like they were implying the mother had an attachment issue with her baby, right? Me choosing my children over partying. 100% of the time. Lost lots of friends. Deeply traumatic. Birth led to people not believing us. That sounds like an interesting story. I wonder what happened there. Yes, I lost two best friends again. That was vaccines. So moving on choosing a home birth. I thought I deleted. I thought I removed most of the choosing a home birth and not telling my friend because she was so fearful against home birth. Hmm, I can see that because that feels like a trust issue, but she still has a right to do that, and her friend needs to understand if she was making her feel uncomfortable about it, then my very best friend from college, we were been like sisters for over 30 years. She didn't even I knew she was they were trying to conceive for the longest time. We couldn't be closer, and she didn't tell me that she was pregnant until she was around 20 weeks, and I didn't feel the least bit slighted hurt, because she was so I don't want to misuse the word traumatized, but she was so wounded from years of not conceived. Believing that she just was holding her breath that entire pregnancy, and couldn't even tell her best friend till she was about 20 weeks that she was pregnant with twins, and she didn't sound joyful, telling me she was nervous, I didn't even think twice about feeling entitled to that information. It's not my business. So I can't even see if a friend home births and didn't tell me I would, I can't even see feeling hurt by that. That's, I think it's so helpful in life, when you if, if more people recognize what is and is not their business, like that, it's not personal. It's not personal for withholding that information is not personal against you. That is her own inner, you know, in her challenge, in her work that she was doing because of her pain, yeah, yeah, right, okay, this woman lost a friend because she herself declined the COVID shot while pregnant. I cannot imagine, I cannot imagine friends like this. Who are these women that these women are friends with you? Once told me about a friend, and I was like, how are you friends with a person like that, right? And you said, well, it was convenient. And I said, Well, that makes sense. We all need like, yeah. I mean, our friends fill certain spots in your life for certain reasons at certain times, and they don't have to last forever. So, yeah, just chapters, seasons. Friends can be seasons too.

Oh, I lost a friend for not letting visitors come after he was born. For about seven to eight weeks, lost friends over that. Wow.

I have to think that all of these losses and friends are for the best. If friends are weaving you over these small things, while it can still be painful and feel like a personal attack. These aren't the people you need in your life anyway. You don't need a lot of people in your life. You need a few good ones. I'm a big believer in turning over friendships throughout life, especially your young adult life, especially your teenage life. We have to turn over friends because we change and grow so much, and when people get sentimental, even about boyfriend, girlfriend relationships. Oh, but we've been together for this many years. Like, okay, well, what does that have to do with anything? It's okay, like you just said, for a season, that's okay, yeah, if you're a particularly nostalgic person, it can be harder, because nostalgia is a powerful force, but you can only be so close to so many people. You can't have 20 deeply, close friends. It's just our brains. We're not wired that way.

Well, having a child is like a great reset. We're about to form many new, wonderful, close friendships in the next years of our lives, and it might be time to let go of some others, but it's a shame when it comes through the form of judgment, not speaking to each other, hurt feelings. I've had a lot of women in the postpartum group suffer a lot because friends stop speaking to them, and a lot of nonsense. Sometimes destination weddings, someone didn't go to a destination wedding, or it was complicated because they had to bring their baby and they couldn't stay at the whole time, and friends are just like, outraged at it, so, you know, they'll understand once they have children. All right, that's it. That's those ones I selected. Okay, fun. All right, so hopefully that was helpful, yeah, well, I at least, I hope everyone understands they're not the only one going through some nonsense in their lives, because most people are

Yeah, and hold tight to the ones that don't judge you and respect you no matter what your choices are, and let the others go. Maybe they come back, maybe they don't. That's okay.

Let's get to our first question. All right.

Hi, ladies, thank you so much for all that you do for us moms and all of our much needed education. I'm calling because I've been hearing a lot of people that I've encountered, whether it's at church or just likes in general or Instagram, that talk about their newborn infant being a quote, unquote lazy feeder or lazy eater when they're just born, in terms of their breastfeeding. First of all, it just sounds wrong to me. I think it's mean to call a newborn human being lazy, because I just don't think that it's true. But is it a side effect of an epidural or some other issue, like tongue tie or something? All three people that I've recently heard a term from say that their pediatrician has told them such, which obviously we know pediatricians don't know anything about breastfeeding. Anyways, I find it very offensive to call a newborn baby a lazy feeder, so wanted to run it Pat y'all. Thank you so much.

I couldn't agree more with her. I am right there with you and her on this. No newborn is born lazy. That's just impossible. Baby Come lazy. Lazy is something we develop over many, many, many years of lifestyle. You are not born lazy. Newborns are born with instincts, and if a baby is not it's very easy. To call a baby lazy because I guess you don't know what else to call them if they're struggling with feeding. And that's just like the rhetoric that gets passed on one person says it and another nurse picks up on it and says it in the next room and says and then it just keeps going. And I guess maybe because it's a term that people can relate to. I don't know. I don't know why it got started. I don't know where it comes from, but it's totally inaccurate. There's not a lazy baby out there in this world. If they are having a difficult time feeding, it's because of some underlying reason. Maybe they were born early, maybe they have jaundice. Maybe they the mother's colostrum or milk is not in maybe they have tongue tied. Maybe they just haven't learned proper latch technique yet. Maybe they are semi drugged from labor. That's a very common reason. There's more. There are more reasons, but it's definitely not ever laziness. So get that out of your head, and the remedy is skin to skin, and obviously trying to figure out the underlying cause, probably with a lactation consultant. You know? What bugs me about it, other than the ridiculousness of it all and the judgment of it all and labeling this innocent newborn as something, it's just so crazy. But what really bugs me about it is also it's so non constructive. It's like, So, now what?

Yeah, like, oh, it's dismissive. It's like, oh, sorry, don't have lazy now. What?

Like, what is it even point, right? Let's just eventually they won't be lazy. Let's just get to the solution and not let's skip all the labeling of things. Yeah, too many things are labeled, um, diagnosed. They're trying to turn into like a diagnosis.

It's just, it's well, that is not a diagnosis. It's not intelligent,

you know, it's just, it's not helpful, it's lazy, it's lazy, it's lazy. So it's lazy. Ones. Oh man, that's a good one. That was so good. Trisha, my God, we need every now and then, every now and then. So good.

Hi, ladies. My name is Rachel. I'm currently 35 weeks present with my first when I got my anatomy scan at 20 weeks, I was told I have a low lying placenta. It was about four centimeters away from my cervix. My OB at the time told me not to exercise or have intercourse for a month, until they did another scan to make sure it moved out of the way. They also told me there was a chance the placenta could detach and then cover my cervix. I was obviously super scared and worried, because I knew that placenta previa meant st section delivery at the following scan, it had moved up out of the way. But my question is, Can placenta actually detach and COVID cervix, or was that just bad information from my OB? I have, luckily since transferred to midwifery care. I actually transferred three late at 29 weeks, and I'm planning a home birth now. Your podcast and working with my midwife and doula have honestly changed my life, and I'm so excited to give birth now. Thank you for all you do. You're truly making such an impact in people's lives. Have a good day.

Thank you for all those nice words. That sounds like a scare tactic, I can major, massive can detach and then maybe attach over the and then placenta detaches. You're in trouble, right? If your placenta detaches, that's that's not a good thing. I mean, sometimes all the very tiny, small, partial separation will mend itself, but it's not going to detach and move four centimeters down and cover your cervix and float around with the baby and then cover the service do that loading around. Of course not. I mean, you wonder if these providers who would make such a thing, if they know how any of this works, where did they do? I think that they just are saying things to scare women, to get them to, you know, hurry up and get out of their office. Or, I don't know, yeah, the placenta can detect, obviously, that's a crisis, a life or death crisis.

This reminds me of four centimeters isn't even very close to the cervix at all. I mean, that shouldn't even really be brought up, brought to a woman's attention. That's just like there's a trend right now, I'm sure you know that women are but very big percentage of women are being told they have placenta previa, and it scares the hell out of them the first six, seven months of their pregnancies, brings them in for extra ultrasounds. They're scared to even sign up for a childbirth class sometimes, because they think they're going to have a C section. So that what really gets me with placenta previa is they tell women at, let's say, like, 16, 1718, weeks, they have placenta previa, and then they're like, let's check again in two or four weeks. How about checking at 35 weeks? How about checking when the belly actually goes from like, growing, growing, growing to just huge, like, massive change. A week ago anyway, it reminds the point you're not going to do anything about it at at 20 weeks you're not going to do anything about it three weeks later, it doesn't it's conditioning her. And it said, just in case, let's get that C section down. And it reminds me of remember this, but when one of my HypnoBirthing couples years ago was told they asked about delayed cord clubping, and the doctor said, What do you mean? Wait for it to stop pulsating. It doesn't stop pulsating. If it stops pulsating, it means the baby died, right? Yeah, is that? Is that ignorance, or is that doctor just that?

I don't know, or it's hard to unethical. Nothing is there's, there's no path to forgiving that provider. So they left him, and they should have, there's no path for that being okay, either he was ignorant or he was permanent. Also this doctor's advice to what did he say? Don't have sex, don't have don't exercise. They love

saying that. It's, I think it's a power move. Don't have sex. I think is a major power move. It must be, because it's not that is not evidence based. Just like you know, women were put on bed rest when they had bleeding, and that didn't turn out to be helpful. You have your placenta is four centimeters from your cervix. It's not even significant.

I have had a couple of HypnoBirthing clients share with me that doctors told them to not have sex the entire pregnancy. Can you believe that it's such a power move, like you have the nerve to tell a couple when they can and cannot have sex, like, get out of their bedroom? Obviously, if there was, like, something major going on, like an infection, if there was a true reason, fine, if there was actually a medical indication to not but most, but generally, that's not the case. I'm glad she changed providers. That's all I can say.

So We answered your question, right? Yeah. Okay.

First off, I want to say thank you guys so much for this podcast. I absolutely love it. I have been binge listening to it since about June. I'm due in April, trying for a VBAC, which I'm super excited about. I was diagnosed with gestational hypertension at 31 weeks, and my midwife said that even if my blood pressure goes back to a normal range and stays there, that the diagnosis of gestational hypertension would stick, and that the MFM I also see would likely still recommend an induction During week 37 and I know this is different for everybody, and there's a lot that goes into it, but if there's no other issues, and everything else is fine, and my blood pressure goes back to normal, would there still be a need to do an induction in week 37 thank you so much, and I look forward to hearing your answer. Oh, sorry. And my name is Jackie, and I am in Texas. Thank you so much for everything you guys do. Bye. Okay, well, the first thing I want to say here is she said I'm trying for a view back. She's not trying for a V back. Yes, she's having a V back or planning a V back. I have back.

That's what I call it planning. She herself said she's so excited so she can just say, I'm so excited to have my V back. Yes, women are so afraid to say that, because they think the disappointment will be greater if it doesn't work out that way. But that's not that's not how it works.

You need to go into it with the intention that that is what's happening. And, you know, come hell or high water, you're having a vaginal birth, and you increase your odds. Yes, you need to go into it with that belief. So, yeah, makes no sense to me, if her gestational hypertension resolves, which it very often does, because much of the time hypertension in pregnancy is actually just white coat hypertension, not always. Of course, there's real gestational hypertension. It does happen, but if her blood pressure is normal, certainly she should not be induced at 37 weeks. And if she's having a VBAC induction, is what we want to avoid at all costs. So she really wants to do everything she can to try to avoid being induced in order to improve her chances of the vaginal birth, because induction is an increased risk. Pitocin does increase the risk in VBAC, so we do want to try to stay away from that. And I would argue that even if she does have some hypertension, she should still try to avoid an induction at 37 weeks. And I would say the recommendation for 37 weeks shows us, it indicates what I would consider a lack of credibility on those providers. Why 37 weeks isn't that random? If you're really monitoring a woman, then you can't. Side in advance, exactly the perfect time that she would need to actually be induced. You have to monitor her and see when she needs to be but to plan in advance. And then on top of it, 37 weeks.

That is actually a trend. Barbara Harper told us that it is becoming increasingly common in hospitals across the United States to move the induction from 39 to 37 weeks.

Well, they want to, they want to catch every possible woman who might have gone into labor spontaneously by 39 weeks, but that's day one of a baby being full term, and many babies will be in there four or five more weeks, and it's robbing the baby of something that the baby is entitled to. But I think that really, they showed their hand when they said 37 weeks, just random round number day one of being full term when they're not even they don't even know what her what her reading will be at that time. So I, for me, I would put I'd have a lot more questions around that red flag. Red flag.

Okay, so that's a wrap on the regular Q and A for today, if you are with us in the extended version, which you can get on Patreon or by subscribing on Apple subscriptions, we are going to answer several more questions in the extended Q and A, specifically on topics related to postpartum depression and when to start medication, medications the risk of cervical tears and hematomas with induction and respiratory distress or respiratory issues in newborns. At home, if you're not with us in the extended episode, you will be getting quickies. Next is it quickie time? It is quickie time. Just always gotta say my favorite time,

my favorite time, it's quickie time, my favorite time. You do say that. I forgot how much you say that.

Alright, I don't know. I just find the quickies really fun. They are. So I think it's, I think it's a great part of our Q and A's. I agree.

I agree. I remember. I remember the first time we did it. We got online, and I was like, I just had the best idea. You remember that day, first day we did them? You don't?

I don't. I was like, I just had the best idea. Because we're getting all these questions, and some of them are quick like, we just got one saying, What's the difference between a doula and a midwife? So that that'll, we'll call it quickies. You don't remember that we made all these jokes about what quickie meant, like all the innuendo was really fun. Yeah, yeah, it was, yeah. Okay, all right. Anyway, here we go. Okay. Where do we want to begin? Did either of you have a doula at your birth starting with a personal one? Why not?

Yes to my first and no to my second, and I declined a doula who offered to attend my second one for free, and I still declined. I don't know why. I think because she talked a lot, she wouldn't stop talking. Oh dear. Okay, no, I did not have doulas at any of my three births. Neither didn't have a midwife at one of your births. I did not have a midwife at one of them. I barely had a midwife at the second one, but I did have lots of friends at my first birth, and who were all nursing students getting their Masters in Nursing. Some were midwives in training. Some were NPS in training. So maybe that counts, but actually they weren't in the room with me. So no, they were not playing doula role at all. I never even thought about having a doula. I always thought they were in the room with you. No, they were in the house with me. Oh, maybe I don't remember, to be honest, I don't remember who was in that room at the time of birth, because I was so out of it and exhausted, they may have been in the room at the time of birth. They probably were because they were learning and you volunteered yourself. Yeah, why not? I was that was very, that was really very nice of you.

You know, my midwife really was not in favor of all the people in my house, and maybe in retrospect, looking back, I should have listened to her, because I did have about 20 people in the house, and that was probably way too many to have a peaceful, safe, you know, birth environment. And she warned me against that, and I was like, Oh, it'll be fine. It'll be fine. And it was fine, but I did have a very long, exhausting labor. I've learned, I've learned since then, okay, does your milk come in faster for your second baby? Definitely, yes. If you could only ask one question, interviewing a midwife or doula, what would it be? Probably different for midwife versus doula. I think the question I would ask a midwife is what her transfer rate is.

I think I would ask, what's the most common reason for transfers as well. So we were both thinking around the same sort of thing, doula, maybe, how many birthdays attended? My advice to my clients when it comes to a doula is it's great to have a doula with a ton of experience. I know a couple of doula. With phenomenal experience, and they're they are more valuable in that respect. But I do say the first thing you should do is hire the doula whose face you want to see when you go into labor. Just hire the one that you just feel like you love when you meet someone and you just kind of fall in love with them. That's the one to hire. I think that really matters a lot. You should like, you should feel like you want to be held in her arms. If that you know that it should just feel really good, or even so the question you should ask is, do you love me?

You should just feel like I'll be happy when this person walks in. I'll be happy to see them when I'm in labor. I didn't feel that way about my doula. She was fine, but I didn't feel anything emotional at all. She had a very, very thick boundary around her, and I even felt strange that I was going to be naked in front of her. I didn't really feel very comfortable, but I hired her because she was the most responsive person. She was fine, but I didn't I now that I know so many doula I'm like, Oh God, they would have been amazing at birth, because I just, I love them so much. Anyway, I like that answer. All right, is it necessary to count the kicks every day in the third trimester?

I would never recommend that personally, but what's the role it is recommended? It is now more often recommended. That was not something I ever did or anything I ever recommended. I did recommend kick counts. If you sensed that your baby was not moving as well, then, yes, go. You know, have something sweet. Get some energy in your body. Lay down, count your kicks. Make sure they seem within normal limits. But on a daily basis, I would say no, and I said no, because it would just build so much anxiety. Do trust your intuition. I'm a big believer in getting quiet and asking if everything is okay. I'm really big on that, but the kick counts. If anyone had told me that, it would have made me absolutely neurotic. I think you just need to know what's normal for your baby. Just try to be in tune with that. What feels normal? What feels abnormal? If it feels abnormal, then pay attention more carefully. So do I need to stop breastfeeding before getting laser hair removal?

No, no.

Most everything can be done while breastfeeding. Everything that you think you can't do breastfeeding, you actually probably can. Does phototherapy require separation of mother and baby? Well, yes, yes, it does, because the baby is in a separate space. So your baby can be next to you, they can bring a photo therapy bed into the hospital room with you.

What's photo therapy for jaundice, the blue light, oh yeah, Mm, hmm.

So if your baby is getting the lights, then, yes, it does require separation, but it doesn't have to be like across the hall in the nursery. They can bring the the they can bring the bed and the lights into the room. We just heard a story from a woman, I think, yesterday on Instagram, who said her baby was in the neonatal intensive care unit for nine days with jaundice, and insurance didn't pay for the last day because insurance said the ninth day wasn't necessary. Remember how many women we've had on the podcast who said they always pushed the NICU stay another day or two in the end, they wouldn't like quote, let the baby go home yet. And in her case, insurance said the ninth day wasn't necessary. We're not paying for it, and now they're strapped with all they're strapped with all these huge bills. But the bigger thing we were discussing was she said, for her second baby, they did. They took care of it in the room. So now she's got all this. She's upset thinking about what happened the first time around. Needless to say, yeah, yeah. Fair enough.

Okay. Here we go. You might have to think about this one. What's something embarrassing that has happened to you in the last few weeks?

How often do these people think we get embarrassed that last few weeks? I was, I thought it was like a lifetime question. The last few weeks, I mean, I think mildly embarrassed. So I'm trying. I'm really trying. I don't think you're embarrassed terribly easily. Yeah, I don't get embarrassed terribly easily to begin with, so that is hard for me in the first place. Yeah, like if I don't know the meaning of a word, I'm not embarrassed that I don't know it. If I'm bumping to someone, an old friend, and I've got no makeup on, and I'm a mess. I'm not embarrassed like I just don't experience embarrassment that easily, but I truly don't, but I do have experienced embarrassing things, of course, and I'm just having trouble thinking of it right now. So let me just think for a sec. Hmm.

I can think of, I can think of something. It's not that embarrassing, but it's a little bit embarrassing. It's just sort of funny embarrassing. You broke your glass water bottle again. I dropped it last night and it didn't break. I was so relieved.

Unless you drop that thing, you're lucky. It's not your phone, okay? So my phone I drop all the time, and it breaks often too, because I don't have a K. On it. Of course not. Why would someone who drops glass all the time on it right now have a case on her phone?

Okay, so the so I had just come from acupuncture, and I had gone to Trader Joe's to do, you know, some grocery shopping on the way home. And, you know, after acupuncture, you're like, really chill, really Zen. And so I was pretty Zen. I was feeling very relaxed after this acupuncture session. I also probably had not eaten enough that day, so I might have been a combination of relaxed and spacey, and I was trying to quickly shop in Trader Joe's. And sometimes when it's really busy, I just don't take the cart with me because it's too hard to navigate. So I'll leave my cart and I'll go grab some things off the shelf and come back and put them in my cart. Well, because I was really out of it, I was grabbing things off the shelf, and I was totally unaware that I was just loading up another woman's grocery cart. Oh, and she was very she was probably doing the same thing, but she quickly, kind of came back to her cart, and she was like, tap me on the shoulder. I didn't even realize at all. She tapping me on the shoulder. And she's like, Excuse me, ma'am, that's my that's, that's my cart. No. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. And then I had to pick through because I'd put like, 10 things in there. That's a really good story, and some of the things are the same, and then that is embarrassing. I'd be embarrassed by that too. That was, that's a really good one. It wasn't like I was just, like, almost putting one thing I had, like, loaded up her card, yeah, and then I had to pick through and figure out what was mine and what was hers, yeah. Anyway, I would, I would definitely be embarrassed by that. Definitely. That's really funny. That's a great one. I'm really having trouble thinking of one. Well, that one might be a hard one to think of right now. You can take some time on that. We'll we'll circle back to that. And it's hard because it says the past few weeks and I've been house bound because I've had painters repainting the whole house, so I haven't even done much in the past few weeks outside of my home. And thankfully, nothing embarrassing happened with the painters that were like, I really can't think of I really can't think of a recent example at all. I can't even think of a good older example. So what give me another question? I'm so sorry to disappoint if I think of one, if I think of mine, I will share it during the next Q A recording, and I'll very here's a really easy one. Okay. Should I be that one? What's the first thing you put in your mouth in the morning? I morning?

How can that not be a toothbrush for everybody? Okay, good for you? Is it? It's not, definitely not my toothbrush. I have to wake up and brush my teeth. I can't even imagine not. No, I want straight to my sink and I brush my teeth. Okay, follow up to that, then, do you wet your toothbrush before you brush your teeth? Yes, or do you just not dry? I don't use a dry toothbrush. I wet it. I put toothpaste on it, okay? And you drink coffee before you brush your teeth, for sure, if I'm I mean it, yeah, I drink water, a little coffee, probably have some breakfast, and then I brush my teeth when I'm getting Yes, everybody, goodbye.

I can't imagine, I can't imagine not brushing my teeth right when I wake up. It's, first of all, just my habit. I don't even think about it, but I can't even imagine being comfortable not brushing my teeth right away. I brush my teeth a lot like, you know, midday, I'll often run up and brush my teeth too. But, yeah, I can't believe that we should do a poll on that, because one of us is definitely crazy. We have to. I think anyone who puts a dry toothbrush in their mouth is crazy. Yeah, I can't imagine that. Why did you ask me people do that? Because really that, yeah, so I think it's probably like a 50. You know what I hate in the movies? You just reminded me of something I hate in the movies. Everything's so fake in the movies, like, they never say goodbye after a phone call, they just hang up, you know, like, that's not realistic. You say goodbye to people when you're on the phone, they're like, you know, they just, they just hang up. But the other thing is, when people brush their teeth in movies, which is really pretty unnecessary, but you know, that's how it is. They they spit, and they don't rinse their mouth. And I'm like, come on, who brushes their teeth? Oh my gosh, it's in so many movies and TV shows. The people they do, like one spit. I don't know if they're faking it, but they brush, they spit, and then they walk away. And I'm just like, how do you not rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth. I don't understand it. I guess they don't really want to take it that far, where the people are slurping water and spitting off the water, they just do this neat little spit. But it's like the concept is so gross to me that you don't rinse out after brushing so very unrealistic. I'm a tough movie critic. I would never notice that in a movie. Yeah, it's like noticing if they're driving about a seat belt or something. It's just those things you're just thinking, come on. Yeah, I really want to think of something embarrassing. Well, we can reconvene. Yeah, I'm really sorry to disappoint. I'm going to keep thinking about it.

You'll come up with something. There's got to be something. Oh well, I can tell you something I do all the time. I just thought of one, but I don't have a specific story. I can just tell you something I do all the time. See how I have my glasses on top of my head right now. I I've been seen by many people near and dear to me that I'm running around looking for my glasses. Oh yeah, that's kind of embarrassing.

Kind of, I mean, it's kind of like, I feel like that's just, like a mob thing. It's just an anybody thing. It's an anybody it's an anybody who wears glasses thing, yeah?

Like, when you get so used to something that you you feel like you don't, yeah, I really will try to do but you'll come up with a good story, or maybe something will happen in the next couple of let's hope that's embarrassing. That's embarrassing. Let's hope that's not helping a little embarrassing. It's not bad. It's not, you know, that makes for good life stories. Thanks for the reassurance share with the kids when you get home.

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